Bon anniversaire

[quote]Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development
From: imurd… (Ian A Murdock)
Subject: New release under development; suggestions requested
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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 13:05:37 GMT
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Fellow Linuxers,

This is just to announce the imminent completion of a brand-new Linux release,
which I’m calling the Debian Linux Release. This is a release that I have put
together basically from scratch; in other words, I didn’t simply make some
changes to SLS and call it a new release. I was inspired to put together this
release after running SLS and generally being dissatisfied with much of it,
and after much altering of SLS I decided that it would be easier to start
from scratch. The base system is now virtually complete (though I’m still
looking around to make sure that I grabbed the most recent sources for
everything), and I’d like to get some feedback before I add the “fancy” stuff.

Please note that this release is not yet completed and may not be for several
more weeks; however, I thought I’d post now to perhaps draw a few people out
of the woodwork. Specifically, I’m looking for:

1) someone who will eventually be willing to allow me to upload the
	release to their anonymous ftp-site.  Please contact me.
	Be warned that it will be rather large :)

2) comments, suggestions, advice, etc. from the Linux community.  This
	is your chance to suggest specific packages, series, or
	anything you'd like to see part of the final release.

Don’t assume that because a package is in SLS that it will necessarily be
included in the Debian release! Things like ls and cat are a given, but if
there’s anything that’s in SLS that you couldn’t live without please let me

I’d also like suggestions for specific features for the release. For example,
a friend of mine here suggested that undesired packages should be selected
BEFORE the installation procedure begins so the installer doesn’t have to
babysit the installation. Suggestions along that line are also welcomed.

What will make this release better than SLS? This:

1) Debian will be sleeker and slimmer.  No more multiple binaries and
2) Debian will contain the most up-to-date of everything.  The system
	will be easy to keep up-to-date with a 'upgrading' script in
	the base system which will allow complete integration of
	upgrade packages.
3) Debian will contain a installation procedure that doesn't need to
	be babysat; simply install the basedisk, copy the distribution
	disks to the harddrive, answer some question about what
	packages you want or don't want installed, and let the machine
	install the release while you do more interesting things.
4) Debian will contain a system setup procedure that will attempt to
	setup and configure everything from fstab to Xconfig.
5) Debian will contain a menu system that WORKS... menu-driven
	package installation and upgrading utility, menu-driven
	system setup, menu-driven help system, and menu-driven
	system administration.
6) Debian will make Linux easier for users who don't have access to the
	Internet.  Currently, users are stuck with whatever comes with
	SLS.  Non-Internet users will have the option of receiving
	periodic upgrade packages to apply to their system.  They will
	also have the option of selecting from a huge library of
	additional packages that will not be included in the base
	system.  This library will contain packages like the S3
	X-server, nethack and Seyon; basically packages that you and I
	can ftp but non-netters cannot access.
7) Debian will be extensively documented (more than just a few
8) As I put together Debian, I am keeping a meticulous record of
	where I got everything.	 This will allow the end-user to
	not only know where to get the source, but whether or not
	the most recent version is a part of Debian.  This record
	will help to keep the Debian release as up-to-date as possible. 
9) Lots more, but I'll detail later...

Anyway, I’ll provide more specifics in a week or so after I receive enough

Please, all replies by mail. I’ll post a followup. If you wish to discuss
this in the newsgroup, please don’t turn it into a flamewar. :slight_smile:

Until later,


Ian Murdock Internet: imurd…
The Linux Warehouse

Please mail me for more information on the status of the Debian Linux Release.[/quote]


Keskecé SLS ?
Ah wikipedia, l’extension de cerveau bien utile…

edit: vu que c’est petit, je le colle ici :

[quote]SLS (Softlanding Linux System) est en quelque sorte la première distribution Linux, initiée par Peter MacDonald à la mi-1992. C’était la première à offrir une distribution complète de Linux contenant plus que le noyau Linux et des utilitaires de base, avec XFree86 1.0m : une implémentation libre de X11R5 (le serveur d’affichage mis au point par le MIT), mais aussi TCP/IP.

SLS était probablement la distribution de Linux la plus populaire à l’époque. Elle a dominé le marché jusqu’à ce que les développeurs prennent la décision de changer le format des exécutables qui n’était pas bien reçu par la base d’utilisateurs (de a.out à ELF). Pendant ce temps, Patrick J. Volkerding a décidé de modifier SLS en la nettoyant et en la paramétrant mieux. Une fois fini, il a appelé Slackware le résultat de son travail. Avec la décision impopulaire prise par SLS, Slackware l’a rapidement remplacée et est devenue la distribution dominante employée par presque tous.

Pour les mêmes raisons de frustation avec la SLS, Ian Murdock a fini par créer le projet Debian dans le deuxième semestre de 1993[/quote]

respect moi je dis :smt038 :smt113

Ca ressemble un peu à ca:

[quote]From:torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroup: comp.os.minix
Subject: GCC-1.40 and a posix question
Message-ID: 1991Jul13, 100050.9886@klaava.Helsinki.FI
Date: 3 Jul 91 10:00:50 GMT

Hello netlanders,
Due a project I’m working on (in minix), I’m interested in the posix
standard definition. Could somebody please point me to a (preferably)
machine-readable format of the latest posix rules? Ftp-sites would be
Linus Torvalds [/quote]

[quote]From:torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroup: comp.os.minix
Subject: What would you like to see most in minix?
Summary: small poll for my new operating system
Message-ID: 1991Aug25, 20578.9541@klaava.Helsinki.FI
Date: 25 Aug 91 20:57:08 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki.

Hello everybody out there using minix-

I’m doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won’t be big
and professional like gnu
) for 386(486) AT clones. This has
been brewing since april, and is starting to get ready. I’d like
any feedback on things people like/dislike in minix; as my OS
resembles it somewhat (same physical layout of the file-sytem
due to practical reasons)among other things.

I’ve currently ported bash (1.08) an gcc (1.40), and things seem to work.
This implies that i’ll get something practical within a few months, and I’d
like to know what features most people want. Any suggestions are welcome,
but I won’t promise I’ll implement them :slight_smile:

Linus Torvalds [/quote]

From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Free minix-like kernel sources for 386-AT
Message-ID: 1991Oct5.054106.4647@klaava.Helsinki.FI
Date: 5 Oct 91 05:41:06 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

Do you pine for the nice days of minix-1.1, when men were men and wrote
their own device drivers
? Are you without a nice project and just dying
to cut your teeth on a OS you can try to modify for your needs? Are you
finding it frustrating when everything works on minix? No more all-
nighters to get a nifty program working? Then this post might be just
for you :slight_smile:

As I mentioned a month(?) ago, I’m working on a free version of a
minix-lookalike for AT-386 computers. It has finally reached the stage
where it’s even usable (though may not be depending on what you want),
and I am willing to put out the sources for wider distribution. It is
just version 0.02 (+1 (very small) patch already), but I’ve successfully
run bash/gcc/gnu-make/gnu-sed/compress etc under it.[/quote]


:smt026 :smt038 :smt035