Eben Moglen il parle vite

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Du coup comme je comprenais pas tout en l’écoutant j’ai fait une transcription de cette vidéo. C’est lacunaire (j’ai pas tout pigé quoi); mon anglais n’est pas délirant. , mais je ne trouvais pas le texte de cette vidéo sur le web donc j’ai tapé approximativement ce que je comprends.
Y a-t-il des personnes qui voudraient m’aider à finaliser cette transcription? Pour résumer, il explique son parcours; pourquoi il a senti le besoin de se battre pour le Libre et ce qu’il a fait pour cela. C’est trés intéressant mais il parle trés vite et j’ai pas tout pigé. Il fait une digression profondémment philosophique à la fin de son propos qui est bouleversante :slightly_smiling: . Deux questions donc:

  • Puis-je mettre la transcription en question ici même (volumineux… 1816 mots)
  • Des personnes volontaires pour un coup de main?
  • Si c’est pas l’endroit pour ce genre de démarche; des conseils, où et à qui m’adresser?

Voila.

Vas y publie. Si tu trouves une transcription anglaise, je me ferais un plaisir de t’aider.

Voila. J’insiste, c’est assez lacunaire, l’orthographe est approximative et c’est pas toujours grammaticalement juste. C’est un premier jet quoi! Bon courage pour lire ça, je vous préviens c’est pas très clair, c’est pour cela que je fais appel aux bonnes volontés!

[quote]Like stallman and jhon gilmor and others of my generation one could say i got involved with free software when i was a child because software was free for them/then
I started working as a apl apllication programmer for a scientific time sharing corporation in 1973 when i was 14. I worked as an apll designer and ??? for xerox thrue the 70 ies and in 1979 i went to work for IBM at the ??? laboratory hacking on APL??? i worked on APL i worked on APL 2.
I wrote a big piece of IBM’s first pascal compiler.
The way that we did that work was after all by sharing code with people who used the code in IBM ??? base. And they helped us to design and implement, improve and hack one stuff; they have the source and when they …BUG??? they send a patch.
So in a way whe lived in a free software environment. Sure there were ??? rules ??? but in 1979 when the ??? commission was just finishing ?? the soft? rule?; the rules were not well understood or depended upon by pretty much anybody.
Was it copyrighted ??? AT&T and IBM disagread how much could you ??? pretty much nothing. Was it a trade secret well no it was a prduct for ??? or for expensive hardware.
So in a way the world we grew up was a world that was soon??? from freedom to tink? I worked mostly on ??? programms and languages were the source code and the object code were the same. You had to share the code. And i worked on products which would distribute for the ??? environment where the customer expected to get the source code and if he had the source code of ViM and somebody shoot them source code of them VS??? in some language called PLS that they gived in a complied form they complained; beacaus they expected that they would be able to build the product on site.
THis was a multi million dollar machine, who was gonna tell him he couldn"t build the product on site? right?
So in that sense the ??? was forever. Forever ?? in a way ??? in the middle.
I was working in IBM in 1979 somebody ask me for an internal use ?? only review of a thing called the ??? which was apple’s??? experimental attempt to bring the ??? technology into the steve job’s work. And the Lisiou was a preMacintosh kind of computer and iwill be in internal appreciation about that computer and wich i said this is a catasrophy. (03min50) This is the end of language in relations to computers, this is the implementation of the caveman into face you point and you ???. And if we reduce the interaction between human beings and computers to pointing and groumping ??? then we miss the role of langage in the evoltuion of human mind and human consciounsness. Langages 4.19 will ??? make our brains bigger, if whe don’t use langages to relate to computers neither their brains or our brains will grow in a way that they are supposed to grow. That was the loosing argument even within IBM but certainly in world overall as the years went by. 04.45
And i got lessons ??? about working on programming in that work as a programming langage ??? what was happenning. So i went my ??? degree in history PHD i became a legel historian and i ??? all the work. I went ?? in New york, ??? commercial i began asking myself how does one make justice in the world?
I got a job teaching in a fine university as a legal historian and i wrote a doctorial dissecation and did history writing and i thought about the long ???meaning information in human society. And i wanted to do programming beacouse i am a ??? programmer, because i have a PC in my disposal which was’nt the eleven million dollar mainframe i used to have and it was’nt a great computer but it was good enough for some thing. HUUM I did’nt like DOS wery much but i never used windows that was the thing it was’nt good to do with computers, i was’nt gonna be shocked into using something wich was the very thing i did’nt want make worse. I knew what ex windows was, who would wanted use this ??? . So i fooled around with ??? coherent when the mark william’s companie created a 99 $ crippled UNIX. I tried it and i started using it with the GNU toools but i used the GNU tools in DOS. I used dj g++?? then their were used a c complier for porting UNIX to DOS to run emacs in my DOS machine bacause like mr stallman i believed in emacs ???.
So in that sense free software was always therer but i was living a large ??? long technical life. in 1991 i decided that i saw what i needed to do in order to begin working on freedom in the 21 century . That was key encryption. That was the first that have to be done. We needed for to reason:
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to keep secrets from governments and to have electronic commerce. And so i started looking around for a way to do public key encryption that would break the governments encryption rules. And in july of 1991 i saw a programm called PGP realeasesd to a ??? board in NYC . And i took the zip files down i looked at the users manual and i read the source code that was fully released and i ??? an email to the author that was ZIMMERMAN and i said "congratualtions; you’re gonna chage the world; you’re also gonna get in a shit lot of trouble. and when it happens i can help you."
here’s whoiam, here’s whati’vdone here’s what i know when you get in trouble call me. and 08.44 i was ten days ??? FBI agent ??? door??? bored ?? and started the mess ??? 06-16
So i went to work as a volunteer on a board of criminal defense lawyer and a couple of other people worked in overtime triyng to keep the federal govern from ingarding ZIMM for arms export control act vilation and our goals was to drive this one case as deep as we could in to the heart of the control system and blow it up from inside if we possibly could. While i was working on ZIMM i gto moments with jhon markov of the times and i said in a course of interview that the right to speak PGP is the right to speak NAVAJO. And Markov printed it in the times and that got to be a little ?? line which people joined ??? in email sign for a couple of months. Stallman saw th coverage of Markov, that markov coverage on the times and he wrote to me, and he said i got a personnal legal problem and i need some help it looks you could be the man who could help me. And i wrote back i said i use emacs everyday it will be a long tuime before you exhauste your ??? free legal ??? for me 07-18 and he ask me to do something and i went ??? did for.

And then i realised that he was the listening ??? for me to figure how ?? go next .
I had figured out what i wanted to do by encryption and i could see that we were gonna get done, but i did’nt understand what to do next to make technological freedom in the 21 century.
So it was the fall of 1993 and i realised everybody in the world who has techno freedom problems knows one on email adress our ??? to work.
If he sends me ??? mess??? that GNU.org needs a lawyer, pretty soon i will figure out what it is the needs doing in the world beacouse he has the best proteged perspective ther is

So i set on his shoulders 08.00 for a couple of years doing wathever the work was that HE thought was important, and learning what everything in the world was the people writing him about. And ?? said you need a general ?? cancel ?? and he said sure and i started doing the work. Now it was still just work i was doing in my spare time i was still a legal historian nobody in the academy had the vaguest idea what the hell this was and everyone ??? i would tell people free software is gonna take over the world and they would say yeah yeah right right thanks very much bye and that would be that!
But i knew where we were going and more importantly i understood that StallM was indeed the tallest possible moutain and by standing on his soulders you could see forever. And everybody before newton all the way back to ?? was right ???we are ?? standing on the shoulders of giants and that’s what i was Stallman was a giant and i stand on hios shoulders and i saw the ???
So in htat sense you could say 1993, or you could say 1995, what you could say after that was that i did more as their were more to do. But i couldn’t make my self 9 order of mangitude bigger right? THe ??? cosmos inflated very suddenly and people noticed it was their.
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And so in the hard the answer is that was their before the big bang; and time didn’t exist , because most people mesaure this stuff from one moment later one when IT began to happen whatever IT was and my vue is it’s just the enrolling of the thing that came for very far long ago, it’s a reversal of a local ??? in the count of time. Microsoft maded appear that software was a product fro a little while.
But now ??? proi ??? And the technological information about the terms on wich we adn the digital brains exitst, that’s not a product, that’s a culture, that’s the record of the positive human beings and the other in conversation.
It’s like litterature, it can’t be a product. So what we are discovering is that it’s a culture made by communauties; and we could have known that in 1965 or 1970. It was hard to see in 1990 but it’s easy to see again in 2006.
In my jugment this is in that historical sense more about cleaning a way of temporary confusion then it is about some strange and amazing departure that suddenly occured.
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[edit by ashgenesis]Merci d’utiliser les balises appropriées[/edit]
[edit by ziouplaboum]J’avais oublié un morceau… aussi[/edit]
[edit by ashgenesis]Ben alors la meme remarque 2 fois pour le meme post[/edit]
[edit by ziouplaboum]Excuse Ashgenesis, il ne faut pas utiliser les balises de citations ou il faut les utiliser; je ne comprends pas?[/edit]

Très intéressante cet interview. J’aurai du temps la semaine prochaine. Je m’en occuperai mardi. Quelqu’un aurait un wiki, ce serait plus pratique pour les changements.

Je suis tombé par hasard sur le wiki de framalang, je pense que c’est le lieu adéquat. Je vois si je peux proposer ce travail chez eux.

Voir la page suivante:
framalang.org/wiki/EbenMoglen_How_I_Met_RMS

Comme promis, j’ai modifié ta transcription sur le wiki. J’ai également modifié quelques erreurs de transcription et d’orthographe. Il reste quelques mots que je n’ai pas compris, souvent des noms propres.

J’ai également demandé de l’aide ici:
unix.com/showthread.php?p=30 … t302136505

Voilà, j’ai complété la transcription et traduit une partie. Je n’ai plus trop de temps maintenant. Alors si quelqu’un veut prendre le relais pour compléter ou corriger…

framalang.org/wiki/EbenMoglen_How_I_Met_RMS

Super Ripat, c’est beaucoup plus clair maintentant!
Je vaix essayer de traduire quelques morceaux dés que j’ai un temps.
Merci.

Ça a pas mal avancé, le wiki c’est bon mangez-en!

[PUB] Je viens de voir que c’est publié sur framablog, après quelques mois j’ai l’impression de pas tout comprendre à la traduction faite :slightly_smiling:

framablog.org/index.php/post … d-stallman